Found what I was looking for. Saw a couple that were really great but either out of range (money) or no longer available. Thanks amc49. Not really sure what that stands for? God only knows mine (docjones) is a nick name I've had for more than 40 years. I have purchased from Dennis Kirk before so I should have tried them. I always try Motorcycle Superstore first just because they always have the tires I need at the time. I'm buying what I need.